Bill gates vista interview

BG : Yeah. Even if it was just security, that alone is enough. But yes. And if it was just deployment, that alone would be enough. This -- I forget what they call LUA [least-privileged user account] now, the ability to have non-administrators not do the administrator thing.

BG : Right. Those guys want to be as efficient as possible doing desktop management; that really impacts the software development thing. By the time we ship, most of the hardware will be capable. I was saying to Jim [Allchin] last night, convincing people that Vista be accepted by IT was not the big message we were trying to say here. Reasons why Linux still sits in a relatively unused 20GB partition on my HDD I used to have that attitude, but as someone who uses the internet heavily I now understand that the choices others make have significant and serious effects on the quality of the internet for everyone who uses it.

When the OS you feel comfortable with results in my inbox filled with spam from zombied machines, my firewall and server log files are filled with lame Windows attacks on my non-Windows machines, or the accessibility of a web site or portion of the internet becomes pathetically slow as one of those bot nets goes on a rampage, your choice of OS sucks ass. If your not connected to the internet then choose what ever crappy OS you want, if your going to be part of a public network, consider how your choice will affect others on that public network.

Parent Share twitter facebook Four Apple bugs in a month, when looking!! Now we know exactly what projects like MOAB lead to, idiocy at the highest levels of the executive quarter. I truly hope that one day the history books will state this. Just because he looks like a nerd doesn't mean he's a genius programmer. I've never seen anyone claim he was a genius programmer. But at least at one time he was a pretty good programmer [theregister. Gates was one of two primary authors of the software.

So yes, Bill did know computers And he knew how to code, too. Umm, in what way? If you compare Apple machines to comparable PCs, they are about the same ease of upgrading hardware. Now Apple sells more all-in-ones, laptops, and small form factor machines than average, so I suppose you could argue that Apple makes more machines that are harder to upgrade, but that is pretty, bloody weak.

Actually you can, they're just expensive and you have more limited hardware options. Having limited hardware option! They are different issues. How about some counter points. When upgrading hardware on the mac, you never have to worry about calling Apple to get a new key, because your OS decided you are a criminal. You never have to worry about reinstalling the OS, or OS's in succession because you only have an "upgrade" version.

If you are replacing the whole machine, say you got a new laptop, moving all your files, software, certs, accounts, etc. Let's be realistic, who came up with [the] file, edit, view, help [menu bar]?

Do you want to go back to the original Mac and think about where those interface concepts came from? All the media focusses on is the visible issues - HD media, parental controls and aero. Send me a Mac! No, I think what you are noticing is that every IT writer in existence in has run a Mac at least a little bit, whereas in when Windows XP came out, Mac OS X was just a few months old, and it was rare that any IT press knew anything existed other than Microsoft. Especially over the last couple of years the combination of iPod success and Apple-Intel switch has created a situation where many IT writers are writing about Windows all day then going home to their Macs.

You can't put a new Windows with a Mac skin and Mac features in front of these guys and they don't notice. These are also the same guys who were chatting up WinFS and now have to explain why certain dialog boxes in Windows still look like NT 3. You can't just wink about it anymore. The Mac is running the same 64 bit Core chips as everyone else and there are even 4-way Xeon 1U servers so it is really disingenuous to play the same old game that Bill Gates plays of pretending Apple doesn't exist.

IT used to play along but like you say, they seem to all be Mac users now. Parent Share twitter facebook Re:Be careful what you wish for, Bill.

Score: 5 , Interesting by el americano writes: on Friday February 02, PM Homepage If he's referring to the Month of Apple bugs, then the premise an outright lie in the first place. Most of those are denial of service, priviledge escalation, arbitrary code with non-root permission, potential exploits, etc. On top of that, they've thrown in 3rd party apps to fill out the month.

I'm not saying the MOAB people are doing a bad job, but it's a shame to see them being used in this way, because MS shills they are not. As for getting what he wishes for, he already does - on a scale that OSX will never see.

People measure the cost of the MS disasters in the billions of dollars. Way to miss the point Microsoft. My OS X setup is unaffected by the majority of MoAB "bugs"; as you said, many rely on third party apps and therefore aren't really "Apple" bugs at all. That's not the only reason Mr.

Gates can rightly be accused of a lie: "every day"? As in "every single day" since a particular date? MoAB had a hard time stretching a full month out of the few security flaws they were able to find in Apple's software, but a full year?

I was opposed to the MoAB project because I thought it irresponsible. I would say the same of YoAB Year of Apple has done more than they could hope for with their Get A Mac campaign: they've really really pushed Bill's new Aero-skinned captionless Start button.

It's those third party apps like Outlook and Internet Explorer which are the issue. Parent Share twitter facebook Never challenge an attacker? I challenge all those virus-writing bozos to write one! Clearly they haven't got the faintest idea how to create something truly malicious when they don't have a bunch of pretty scripts already written for them.

Not a single virus? That shows these bain-dead hacks can't write real code for peanuts. They're hopeless jokes and OS X users laugh about them all the time. And their mothers are too fat.

I said it. Someone had to. I want people combing the OS for hooks they can hang malware on. This will force Apple to respond and make the OS more secure. If this doesn't happen, the OS will stay as it is and that's not a bad level of security right now. They were useless hacks unfit to call themselves researchers. They failed comprehensively to find that "smoking gun" which would have catapulted them to the notoriety they sought. So, who's next? Any wanna-be virus writers looking for a challenge?

Or are you all too chicken? Are you all incapable? I double-dog dare you! Parent Share twitter facebook There may be more comments in this discussion. Without JavaScript enabled, you might want to turn on Classic Discussion System in your preferences instead. The University of California Statistics Department; where mean is normal, and deviation standard.

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Re:ring ring Score: 5 , Funny. Actually, he probably wouldn't get it. I really don't want to know what's on those tapes. You shouldn't either. Parent Share twitter facebook. If we're talking typical nerd sexual activity, it'll be hours and hours of Melinda saying "no".

Re:ring ring Score: 5 , Informative. Sorry bud, GP got it right. Re:ring ring Score: 4 , Funny. Re:ring ring Score: 4 , Informative. Truth or Dare? Score: 5 , Funny. Score: 5 , Insightful.

Lets see: , known Windows exploits, most of them surfacing in the last 12 years makes that at least one exploit released every 45 minutes - or there abouts. Hell, Vista has an installed base smaller than BeOS right now and it has more exploits already. When they put Vista out the door, they got to "reset" the Windows Exploit Counter Vista is Windows.

Lets see: , known Windows exploits, most of them surfacing in the last 12 years makes that at least one exploit released every 45 minutes. Care you cite some examples? Score: 4 , Funny. I guess, but I really wanted an example of a BeOs user. I think Gates meant: I dare anybody to do that only once a month on the Windows machine.

It wasn't a double-dog dare , so he's not serious. Re: Score: 3 , Funny. He's following etiquette and not jumping straight to triple dog dare. No, see, he's being very precise here. Score: 5 , Informative. When I used to be employed to write adware, we did this at least once a day. Score: 4 , Insightful. I do not understand what sort of mind encourages one to tell a person to kill someone, just because of a job they've aided trespass.

Babies don't even like candy. Score: 5 , Interesting. Bill Atkinson did that at Apple. What is Bill Gates smoking? Apple even invented the phrase "cut and paste. I haven't seen Gates make comments like this in a long time. I'm glad the public finally gets to see what an asshole he is. Seriously, he's known for cussing and swearing in meetings, and he even once said he'd rather "piss on" OpenStep back in the 90s. In the early 90s, he told his wife he had more power than the President she kicked him in the leg for it.

A very arrogant guy. Jobs is arrogant and defensive too, but at least you can understand why given what happened between Apple and Microsoft in the 80s.

The Windows logo has been ensconced in glassy bubble that is such a Mac OS X wannabe that it's a self-parody The swoopy desktop pictures are too much just by themselves, although I heard them defend that by saying that they got all the desktop pictures from third-parties And the "parental controls" feature he keeps saying is a first is in Tiger, released in It is really weird to hear him say they are first with these things when they are clearly not.

When Apple went public, Xerox made millions and millions and that was what Xerox wanted. The very reason they had the CEO of Apple and his computer design team touring around the Palo Alto Research Center was because they didn't know how to make any money from the stuff they had there. They were like a motorcycle company who came up with a cool concept car and didn't know what to do so they called the local car company CEO to come down and see if they couldn't get him to take the car project forward.

He said, yeah, I like this, I'll hire the team and compensate you with stock and everybody was happy. The only stuff I know that Microsoft has contributed to GUI science is the little curly arrow they put on shortcuts, which is a classic innovation in that you see that on every system now Also, using a modifier key plus Tab to cycle through running applications started on Windows and is everywhere else now.

That's not much for 20 years of MS Windows. WTF Score: 5 , Funny. Exploits on Vista? Re:Exploits on Vista? That's some pretty big talk for a company with Microsoft's record, isn't it? Especially compared to Mac. Bracket attack Score: 5 , Funny. For [some reason] most [of] his [words] were [interjected] by the editor.

This [seemed] somewhat [odd and] excessive [to me]. Did [anyone else] notice [this]? Re:Bracket attack Score: 5 , Funny. Steven Levy needed to fill in the dead spaces in Bill's output - like this: Yes, although security is a [The process could not access the file because it is being used by another process]. Re: Score: 3 , Insightful. You did notice who published this interview right?

Gruber Score: 5 , Informative. Mac Exploits? Re: Score: 3 , Informative. What's with all the [edits]? Check out this part of TFA: Yes, although security is a [complicated concept]. Scared Score: 3 , Interesting. Heh, I was thinking the same thing.

Perhaps not coincidentally, I saw this [amazon. Not a fan of the ads Score: 4 , Interesting. In fact, through these ads, Apple has lost a little respect in my eyes, if nothing else. Re:Not a fan of the ads Score: 5 , Insightful. I know that writing something against Apple might not go very well with my Karma, though :- People often complain about an anti-windows or pro-linux or pro-mac bias on Slashdot.

Re:Not a fan of the ads Score: 4 , Informative. Exactly right. My parents are not the most savvy tech people - they call at least once a month to me at work with computer questions. The ads appeal to them, my dad has even started asking whether he should get a Mac. Because he has the experience of the computer not "talking" with the new camera that he purchased or wanting to do a simple slide show of his recent trip to Hawaii. Those are things he knows others do on their computer and he cannot understand why he is not able to.

It is to him that the Mac ads are so simple and so appealing. They should make an "I'm Linux" commercial. As for who would play linux? New Poll: Who plays "Linux" in the commercial? Re:Not a fan of the ads Score: 4 , Insightful. Sidebar is 13 years old Score: 5 , Informative.

Sidebar is delivered on a single floppy disk, takes up less than 1 megabyte MB of hard disk storage space, and less than kilobytes K of random access memory RAM. Condensed version Score: 4 , Interesting. Very nice for Linux Score: 3 , Interesting. Gates mentions Linux, without really any prompting from the interviewer, in his second answer.

Is Gates wrong, or lying? OK couple things about his statements that jumped out at me from reading TFA: The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Re:Is Gates wrong, or lying? I'd say he's running scared Score: 3 , Informative. Re:I'd say he's running scared I'd say that Bill is a bit scared that Vista will flop, or worse, people will just buy a Mac.

Nebula Award Candidate Score: 3 , Interesting. Let's get this straight. The fact that Macs can be hacked makes exploiting Windows okay? But for it to really end, we would need long-lasting vaccines that can prevent re-infection. Otherwise we may have to take yearly shots for some time.

People will continue to speculate on this and we should make sure labs are careful. There will be future outbreaks coming from other species so we need to invest in being ready.

Omicron will create a lot of immunity at least for the next year…As countries experience their Omicron wave health systems will be challenged. Most of the severe cases will be unvaccinated people.

We need vaccines that prevent re-infection and have many years duration.